AAUW-NJ Working to Rid NJ of Gender Pay Gap
Carol Cohen, President, American Association of University Women NJ, talks about the wage gap that exists between men and women in the state of New Jersey as well as how her organization teaches the younger generation to negotiate fair salaries for their future careers.
"Is there still a gender pay gap here in New Jersey? And if so, what are the causes and what are the possible solutions? Joining us now to help answer those questions is Carol Cohen, president of the American Association of University Women of New Jersey. Carol? Hi. So there is still a pay gap here in New Jersey? Absolutely. Talk about that. And the equal rights amendment that was... 50 years ago, the pay gap issue, they're saying that we will not have equality til 2059, at the rate we're going. Oh, wow. Equality in pay? In Pay. So, break it down. What are the discrepancies and what are the reasons for those discrepancies? Okay, there's not one particular issue. However, discrimination is a cultural issue, and so the gender discrimination is a cultural issue, and so it's not just the pay gap that's a problem, it's women thinking that men should be in leadership roles. And there's a problem. And the AAUW has done a lot of research and it's on AAUW.org, a study called "Barriers and Bias," and if you take a test, even I landed up being somewhat biased towards men in leadership roles. It's a cultural thing. So that's the bigger problem. That is the bigger issues... It's a big problem. But if we could focus on the gap because that is a big problem in and of itself, and I wonder what the discrepancy is in that here in New Jersey. There was a map put out to show you the various discrepancies in different townships. In male dominated fields, there's a huge discrepancy between the pay gap. For example? And in... well I think... Name the field. They did sales and... Let's talk about sales. I think it's sales that was more of an issue where it's women dominated field, and the discrepancy... But the men still make more? No, the discrep... yes, they still make more, but the discrepancy is less. Less, uh huh. In a male dominated field, that's where you have huge discrepancies. Such as? Like engineering, or something like that? Exactly. And the, when women come out of high school, there's a discrepancy... I mean, if the loss of their wages over their lifetime could be $700,000. $700,000, mm hmm. If you're college educated, the loss would be 1.2 million, and if you are postgraduate, it's usually a two million dollar loss by the end of your career. So, let's put this out a little bit. Is it largely men who are making these decisions as the decision makers, the executives in these organizations who create these disparities..."